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How do I identify my Gilson snowblower?
Gilson
Identification Tag, Photo Credit: Cale This is the tag you need to find. It will be located down low at the back of the machine on the end panel, down near your feet as you operate the machine. Early machines had metal tags with stamped numbers. These tags have tabs that are threaded through holes in the machine and bent to stay in place. If all you have left are 2 empty holes you're out of luck. Visit my gallery and try to identify your machine or send me some pictures and I will try to give you a model number for ordering parts. Later machines have stickers in the same location with the information. Many machines have decal designations such as ST826, this is not the model number in most cases, be sure to get the number from the tag. The exception seems to be FORD branded machines where I have seen the actual ST-826 tag.

Note to Montgomery Ward machine owners: The machines built by Gilson will have a GIL prefix on the model number. Machines built latter may have a TMO prefix, these were built by MTD, they can be found on my links page.

Where can I get a manual for my Gilson snowblower?
Contact LawnBoy, they have the Gilson archives and have been very good about supplying reprints of the manuals. Call LawnBoy Customer Support directly at 1-800-526-6937. All manuals will be photo copies of original archive materials. These materials have not been converted to digital form and I have been told that due to the age of this legacy there are no plans to do so. The Gilson owners manuals genrally cover set-up, safety, operation, maintenance, common adjustments, belt replacement and complete parts breakdowns. Be sure to have your actual model number as described above.

A writer tipped me off to a snowthrower service manual published by Intertec The snowthrower book has a significant Gilson segment as well as sections on the common engines. The parts breakdowns don't have factory part numbers but they are still helpful. Procedures for belt changes and common adjustments are included. It's become a handy reference for me. In addition to Gilson it includes sections on Aircap Snow Champ, Atlas, Bolens, Craftsman, Crary Bear Cat, Cub Cadet, John Deere, Deutz-Allis, Ford, Homelite/Jacobsen. Honda, INternational Harvester, LawnBoy, MTD, Montgomery Ward, Noma, J.C. Penny, Snapper, Toro, Troy-Bilt and White.

Briggs and Stratton offer complete parts breakdowns on their website. Try this link to get to the index. If this won't connect navigate through; Engine Support & Maintenance --> Manuals, Video's and Books --> Illustrated Parts Lists. For most of the Gilson machines the Antique Engine volume is what you need.

Briggs & Stratton Manuals

These are the genuine Briggs and Stratton manuals. They are concise and complete. Trouble shooting and repairs are covered in excellent detail and fully illustrated. Use the frst 2 digits of your engines CODE number to determine the year of manufacture of your engine when selecting your manual.
B&S antique manual, 1981 and prior
B&S Antique Engine Manual

Briggs and Stratton Antique Repair Manual Covers out-of-production B&S engines from 1919 to 1981. The L-Head was the B&S engine thoughout the Gilson era. This manual covers those engines built though 1981 that have conventional breaker point ignition.

B&S L head manual after 1981
Late Model B&S L-Head engine manual

Briggs and Stratton Small Engine Repair Manual For all L-Head (non-OHV) Single Cylinder engines manufactured after 1981. These will include engines with Magnetron Solid state ignition.

Click here to locate engine manuals for other series of Briggs & Stratton engines. These manuals offer well organized step by step procedures and tips on getting the job done. I learned from one of these decades ago and they are now available in printed book form as well as electronic media. These are actual manufacturers publications and include all of the required torque values and test specifications.

Tecumseh engine owners Click here .

Friction Drive & Gear Drive
These terms refer to methods of controlling the traction system of the machine. There are 2 general styles used in different combinations by various manufacturers over the years. Both can provide years of good service however with regular use some maintenance is inevitable on a friction system.

FRICTION DRIVE systems by using a platter driven by the engine and a rubber tire that runs on the platter. The tire is connected to a drive train that will transmit power to the wheels. A combination of spring force and clever geometry allow this arrangement to transmit a high amount of torque. This mechanism will also allow the tire to touch down on the platter at varying distances from the centerline. The further away from the center the tire is the faster the machine will go. If it moves across the center it will be driven in the opposite direction (Reverse). Lift the wheel from the platter and you're in Neutral. For a friction drive system to change speeds two things have to happen, the wheel has to be lifted and then it has to slide to a new position where it is lowered. In Gilsons heyday many makes were using separate "Clutch" and "Shift" controls. Gilson called their friction drive system UniTrol (One Control). Theirs was particularly ingenious. Gilson engineers devised a clever linkage that generated the two actions in a way that is transparent to the operator. If you have one, watch under the handle as you shift and you will see it working two separate control rods.

Gilson single speed systems found on 4 and some 5hp models had one speed forward and one reverse. The wheel was friction wheel is hung between to platters driven together. When positioned between the platters it is in neutral. If it contacts the front or back platter it will generate forward or reverse power. This design also allowed for it to be a UniTrol.

GEAR DRIVE systems use a sealed gearbox to do the shifting operation. These are frequently made by Tecumseh's PEERLESS group. They are very durable boxes that will generally outlast the machine. They also save the manufacturer of the machine a lot of time in engineering and construction since many critical functions are solve with the single part. For those reasons the price difference between a friction drive and a gear drive machine (Usually about $50.) was insignificant and was driven more by extra heft in the gear drive machine.

The earliest Gilsons were of the gear drive configurations using a single speed box (Forward and Reverse). The premium machines had a HI and LO speed selector built by Gilson that selected the speed for both forward and reverse. The beauty of these machines is that the move at a good clip in both directions. This is in contrast with some machines (including some Gilsons) that were excruciatingly slow in reverse. These machine shine in yards that require you to blow repeatedly in the same direction.

My wheel won't come off
This is a very common problem on these machines. It is very preventable with proper maintenance. If you find that you cannot freewheel or remove the wheels after removing the click pins you should take action right away before the problem gets worse.

The problem comes from the repeated reversal of the axle rotation. Every time the machine begins to move the click pin rocks slightly in it's hole. When the pin rocks it peens the steel axle and eventually metal begins to rise. Eventually this steel forces against the inside diameter of the wheel hub forming an interference. The axle has some relief around the holes but if not checked periodically it will lock up. Common rust can also be a culprit if the machine had excessive exposure to the elements.

If you do not need to get the wheel off the best thing you can do is move the click pins to the outboard holes. Allow the interference or rust to drive the wheels. Keep the axle coated with penetrating oil. If it does break free you should be able to wind the wheel off, then you can dress the axle and maintain it over time. With the wheel off the problem will be obvious. Dress the pin hole with a file, half round works best. Afterwards lay a stream of 30W oil on the axle and spin the wheel on coating the joint fully. Pin the wheel to the inboard axle hole. Check every year or two.

If you need to force a wheel off work carefully. The rim by nature is hard to grip with a puller and is not strong enough to take a lot of force. The best luck I have had is using two pipe wrenches, one on the axle and one to get a hold of the wheel hub. If you can get one wheel off you may be able to remove enough parts to get the wheel onto a hydraulic press at a machine shop, parts store or equipment dealer. An acetylene torch can also be helpful to expand the wheel hub but be carefull with the heat on other parts and near a fueled engine.


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My tires go flat
Flat tires were a persistent nuisance problem in the 1970s. Usually it's from the bead and they can be fussy. If it's a puncture just plug it.

As for the bead we used a 3 step approach. Any of these procedures can be carried out with the wheels still on the machine although it is easier if you can get the wheel up on the bench.

  • Break the bead and clean with a wire brush and inflate to 12-15 pounds.
  • If it still leaks do as above and slather it with bead sealer or a good gasket shellac product and inflate to 12-15 pounds.
  • If it still leaks chisel the stem off and work a tube into the tire. Bring your tire size from the side wall to a tire shop or power equipment dealer so they can look up the appropriate tube. The handle of a large pair of pump pliers (channel locks) with the rubber cover makes a dandy tire iron. Lubricate the tube and rim with silicone spray or soapy water to help it slide in.

I need new Tires!
Replacements for the hard rubber and semi pneumatic tires used on the early models are a tough nut to crack. These tires were also used on a number of smaller machines in the latter years. So far I can offer the following options:

  • If it's a Gilson machine check with a LawnBoy dealer for a factory replacement. If available I hear cost is around $100. each depending on specifics. Not a likely or attractive option.
  • Check local power equipment dealers for graveyard machines that may have better tires on them. If you can find a machine where the engine was blown or removed and sold the "carcass" can usually be had for a reasonable price. Very old machines with nice tires do turn up, especially the older semu pneumatic ones. The hard rubber ones used on many 18, 20 and 24 inch models are often ground down.
  • The best hope for non pneumatic wheel asemblies seems to be the surpluss market. Often a potential wheel can be found at a salvage distributor. Due to the nature of this business you never know what they will have from one time to the next.
    • Things to look for...
    • Wheels with offset hubs will come in left and right hand versions in order to keep the treads in the same orientation
    • Check the bore size
    • Check the tire width and height. Some varriation from original is acceptable in a lot of cases.
    • Hub length
    • Offset or centrality of the hub
    • Any drive pin holes in the hub
    • In many cases adaptation will be required. This may include sleeving or boring the ID, adding pin holes, spacers or other forms of fabrication.
    • Surplus Center is a lead to get started with.
  • Here is how one owner solved the problem.
  • If your tires are pneumatic it's highly unlikely that they need replacement but if they do there are many sources including M&D Mower.
  • Watch Ebay for wheel sets. They often show up brand new from machines that get parted down after some sort of shipping damage.
  • If yout tire tread is worn away but the casing is still sound a set of tire chains may get you by. Some can be found here.
  • If it's not too late for you be sure to see my suggestions Snow blower operating hints

Some things we just can't plan for. When things go wrong it's good to have Home Insurance for Winter.

Where can I get parts?
Toro has acquired the Gilson legacy through the purchase of Lawnboy which in turn had purchased Gilson. Your local LawnBoy dealer is your contact point for original equipment parts. Be sure to bring your machines model number with you, see: How do I identify my Gilson snowblower? Some parts remained in use for over 15 years so there are a lot of machines carrying some of these parts. As the legacy continues to mature more and more obscure items will go out of stock. If you see a need for a part coming on I suggest you try to purchase it at your first opportunity, tomorrow may be too late. Find your local LawnBoy dealer. You may also order parts online.

Consider keeping your eyes open for a parts machine. Remember that since Gilson built many private brand machines the decals and color may not match. You should be able to get a complete machine minus the engine for well under $100. Depending on what you need for parts this can be a great bargain. Just visit local dealers to see what they have in their "graveyards". This can be a great hedge against the day when parts support will be discontinued.

Do not under estimate generic parts sources. Some items such as friction wheels for the UniTrol machines are also available on the aftermarket. Remove your drive belts and have them measured while they are still in good shape, buy a spare set while you're at it. Be sure to read: What about belts? If a bearing fails many are common items you can get at a local bearing supply house such as Bearings Specialty Company or look in your yellow pages under BEARINGS then bring your old parts in for matching. The same holds true for gears, many are standard profiles, you may need a local machine shop to add a key-way or size a bore. Ask the clerk at the bearing shop, often they know of small local shops that will do small jobs like this on a walk in basis. Other items such as spacers, pins, grease fittings and such can be found at a good local hardware store.

From time to time I acquire machines that due to incompleteness or overall condition simply will never be running machines again. These machines get parted down to support surviving machines in my collection. Over time I have accumulated surpluss quantities of some items including many that have not been available for years. Let me know if you are in need of a discontinued Gilson snowblower part. All inquiries are handled on a case by case basis.

Finally in some cases you may need to enlist a local machine shop or welder to fabricate a replacement part. Try to find a small machine shop. Large shops have a lot of overhead and usually can't do this sort of work at an affordable price. What you want is what is referred to as a garage or basement shop, usually a one man operation and in some cases part time. Bring in the damaged part and any other parts that the new one will have to be fit up with.

Engine parts or service can be obtained from nearly any power equipment dealer or online. Many common needs can be found here. If you go in to buy parts be sure to bring all of the numbers stamped on the engine. Many dealers can also get transmission parts direct from the original manufacturers such as Peerless, ask around and bring any available numbers and parts.

What kind of oil should I use?
What you use for crankcase oil in your 4 cycle (Gilson) snowblower has become a complicated question. Most engines are permanently marked with a suggested oil for winter use. That recommendation has changed over time and oil technology has also advanced. Many older engines suggested SAE 10W oil for winter use. Along the way it became SAE 5-20. I'm sure there have been other variations as well. Either one of these oils will do a fine job in moderate winter temperatures. The problems start in extreme cold. Petroleum oils begin to change states when you start getting below -10F. There are 2 important properties you can read up on if you like they are "POUR POINT" and "PUMPING TEMPERATURE" the bottom line from my experience and research is that when you get into sub zero Fahrenheit conditions conventional petroleum oils no longer perform as expected. They begin to thicken and eventually certain components begin to solidify. When this happens in an engine that relies on splash or slinger lubrication the lubricant can get whipped into a froth and put the engine at risk. Exactly what temperature this will happen at depends on your exact brand and grade of oil. For me the simple solution has been to switch to 5-30 synthetic such as "Mobil-1". 5-30 Synthetic is now recommended as a year round lubricant on the B&S Website. The synthetic products have a much wider operating range with pour points that run 20-30 degrees lower than comparable petroleum oils.

HOW YOU CHOOSE TO APPLY THIS INFORMATION TO YOUR ENGINE BE IT VINTAGE OR LATE MODEL IS ENTIRELY UP TO YOU. CONSULT YOUR ENGINE DOCUMENTATION AND RESEARCH THE TOPIC AS NEEDED.

How do I determine when my Gilson was built?
According to Gilson Service Bulletin #116 Dated December 4, 1978 It gives the following explanation;

In late 1975, we changed to a nine digit serial number. Example:

Serial number 8365B1 569

  • 1st digit - calendar year 8=1978
  • 2nd through 4th - calendar day of the year 12/31=365th day of the year
  • 5th digit - manufacturing assembly line B
  • 6th digit - workshift of the day 1st shift
  • 7th through 9th digits - consecutive serial number of the unit manufactured that day on assembly line B. (serial numbers run 001 through 999.
Each day of manufacturing has a repeat of the last three digits, but the calendar day (digits 2 through 4) changes. This system allows us to identify year, date, assembly line, shift, and time of day of manufacture by serial number.

What is the horsepower of my engine?
Here is a great online table that picks those numbers apart.

How do I determine when my Briggs and Stratton engine was built?
ENGINE CODE 6905297 Photo Credit: Cale
The CODE number on the engine determines the exact date it was built. Here is a very simplistic way for you to determine the build date. Follow these easy instructions:

We will use a date code of 6905297 for our example.

  • The first two digits are the year of manufacture. In this case it is 1969 ( 69 ).
  • The next two digits are the month of the year. In this case it is May ( 05 ).
  • The next two digits are the day of the month. In this case it is 29 ( 29 ).
  • The last one or two digits tell us the plant and assembly line.
  • This engine was built May 29, 1969.

The MODEL number describes your basic engine, displacement, carburetor style, horizontal or vertical shaft, and basic output shaft features. The TYPE specifies any unique features, in some cases they can be unique to your particular piece of equipment. As discussed the CODE number identifies when and where the engine was built. It is very important to bring the MODEL, TYPE, and CODE numbers with you when visiting a dealer for parts.

If your engine predates 1965 this site will help you date the engine.

How do I determine when my Tecumseh engine was built?

Locate the ID numbers on your engine they may be stamped in the shroud or in the form of a sticker. Find a number marked as SER and/or D.O.M.. In the example 8105C

  • 8 is the least significant digit of the year of manufacture. You're on you own to guess the decade lets say 1998
  • 105 is the day of the year, 105 being April 15th
  • C represents the line and shift on which the engine was built.

How can I use my wheel pins?

CLICK PINS
Many models used these pins with round bails for securing the wheels to the axels. By moving the pins the machine could be made to freewheel. By moving one pin the machine could be rendered one wheel drive for easier handling in light duty.
Many machines included this click pin feature. In this picture the pin passes through the wheel and the axle causing power to be transmitted. Every time the machine moves forward or back these pins move slightly in the holes this causes some hammering of the steel. It is very important do do the following yearly:
  • With less than 1/3 of a tank of gas turn the machine up on it's nose, otherwise just block it to get the tires off of the ground.
  • Remove the click pin. If your click pin has become stiff and has lost it's "click" soak it in oil.
  • Slide the wheel assembly off of the axle, make sure no small spacers come off with the wheel.
  • Inspect the holes on the axle for peening and dress them with a half round file.
  • Apply a liberal coat of motor oil to the exposed shaft.
  • Replace the wheel and click pin
  • Failure to do this can result in displaced axle steel locking the wheel onto the axle making future tear down very difficult, expensive or destructive.
This is the only other valid arrangement of the wheel axel and click pin. In this setup the wheel is free to turn independent of the machines inner workings. This is most useful during off season storage since it will make moving the machine around much easier. On later models "push-on retaining rings" were added so the wheel could not be slid out to the end of the axle.

NEVER MOVE THE WHEEL TO THE END OF THE SHAFT AND PIN IT THROUGH THE OUTBOARD HOLE! THE WHEEL MUST ALWAYS REMAIN UP CLOSE TO THE AXLE BUSHING. THIS IS REQUIRED TO KEEP THE AXLE CORRECTLY POSITIONED IN THE MECHANISM, FAILURE TO FOLLOW THIS WARNING WILL ALLOW THE AXLE TO WANDER FROM SIDE TO SIDE AND CAN RESULT IN DAMAGE TO BOTH GEAR DRIVE AND UniTrol MACHINES.

On older machines clevis pins with "hair pin cotters" are mounted inboard to drive the wheels and must remain in place at all times. There is still another version that is pinned as shown in this picture but a retaining clip was added to keep the wheels on while the pins are removed to allow free wheeling.

Why doesn't my machine throw snow very far?
A frequently asked question from the owners of Gilson and other machines concerns throwing distance. There are many things that enter in the throwing distance including the machine, operator technique and natural conditions including the snow and wind.

  • If your blower belt is damaged or a poorly chosen substitute for an OEM belt then it may be slipping. It's always best to use the OEM belt. It is worth the few extra dollars.
  • Your engine should always be running at full speed while blowing snow. it is possible for the governor to be disturbed and not deliver full speed. A small engine tachometer and tools are needed to check and adjust this.
  • The most serious cause of poor throwing distance is a damaged impeller. Through heavy use or from ingesting debris the impeller blades can become deformed and reduce performance severely. See these examples of impellers
  • My Operating Tips page offers more ideas about getting the most from your unit.

Snowblower versus Snowthrower
Last but not least is the age old question of snowblower versus snowthrower. The 2 terms are often used interchangeably and there probably isn't a definitive answer to it, but here's mine;

  • SNOWTHROWER: Also called a single stage machine. The snow is gathered by a high speed auger. When the snow reaches the centerpoint it is hurled upward by the auger and thus THROWN. There are fewer moving parts in these machines but they are all moving very fast so damage can be very sudden and severe. This design is almost always used in tractor attachments because of its shorter overall size.
  • SNOWBLOWER: Also called a dual stage machine. The snow is gatherd by a low speed auger and fed back to a high speed impeller that BLOWS the snow up the chute. The lower speed auger is less prone to sudden damage and is generally protected by shear pins. A worm driven auger is preferable to a chain driven one. A worm drive will have a small gearcase between the auger leads griven by a shaft coming through the center of the impeller. A snowblower is preferable under almost all conditions. Remember that you will get the greatest throwing distance when you throw to the side that continues the arc generated by the direction of impeller rotation.
  • That's my definition if I'm asked. Actually I have a number of Gilson brochures and it gets even fuzzier. One year they are blowers, the next throwers and in another year they avoid the terms altogether and say "powerful machines" and other such phrases. So as I say, nothings definitive.If you go to Webster.com and type snowblower it will refer to snow thrower for the definition. The definition they provide is essentially that of a single stage machine!

What about belts?
Ideally you will be able to get factory replacement belts for your machine from a local dealer. Make sure you bring all of the information stamped on the snowblowers identification tag or sticker, do not confuse this with the numbers on the engine. The OEM belts were engineered for the machine they fit. How a belt twists and bends as well as the work it does all enters into the design. Keep in mind that since they are special belts they are not always even inch sizes. A 1/2 inch difference can mean a blower that slips if the belt is long or doesn't stop if the belt is on the short side. 1/2 inch length belts are avalable from some sources but will probably require ordering in advance. As a last resort consider adding 1/4 inch spacers under your engine, make them from flat steel barstock. raising the engine 1/4 inch will increase your required belt length by 1/2 inch and get you into an even inch size. This is not a big deal, in fact for years the machines were shipped with sets of 1/8 inch spacers so the machine could be tweaked if things didn't fit up quite right!

All belts are not created equal. You will need "power rated" belts, not "fractional horsepower" grade. The Gates "green line" belts are very good, there also fine belts available from Dayco. You can often get these at power equipment dealers and auto parts stores.

More specific belt information can be found here.

Where is my air cleaner?
Snowblowers do not have air filters. Normal operating conditions are essentially dust free. Your air intake is ducted such that it is shielded from flying debris and the muffler serves to preheat intake air. Air filters would also be prone to icing.

Where do you keep all of your machines?

Many machines are stored in this area. 6' X 6" skids are the basis for these shelters that comfortably house 2 machines each. There is also under cover storage between some of the sheds and those parts machines have an additional tarp over them for protection. In the gararge there are usually about 4 machines waiting for use and that same number waiting for some sort of attention.

Where do I Live?
I live in southern Maine (USA), about 10 miles inland, from the Atlantic Ocean. I get a mix of coastal and inland storms, or as the meteorologist have started calling them ,"winter weather events". The Coastal storms have a tendency to include sleet and freezing rain and sometimes end as plain rain, making for a heavy snow pack. Other storms are of the inland variety and include deep snow with blowing and drifting. Our average winter snowfall is 71 inches. Our snowiest winter (1970/71) brought 141.5 inches of the white stuff. In 1979/80 we receievd a scant 27.5 inches of snow. Our most challenging winter storms are those that end as rain, followed just a few hours latter by a long cold spell. If you don't clear it away in time you'll need a pick axe! Freezing rain can coat trees, utility lines and everything else with 1/2 inch or more of ice resulting in fallen limbs, wires and treacherous driving. Just plain snow generally is handled in stride. I clear a little over 10,000 square feet per storm of driveway and paths.


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